#and i keep seeing really cool looking fanfiction with p3 characters that i want to read

[astyrra]

persona 3 fans:

if i read the manga/watch the movies now and then play reload when it comes out, is that a decent way to experience persona 3?

[mystech-master]

My BBTAG ideas and the Fate series

Long talk under

I have been looking into the Fate series mostly because I heard of people wanting it to be the next Fate/series introduced into BBTAG, specifically Fate/Grand Order.

I mean I’ve heard of it and I did watch Fate/Zero a while ago, and the idea was interesting. A bunch of wizards summon Magical Warriors based on legendary and/or historical figures from all over the world, all with a cool unique special ability based on their legend.

But HOLY SHIT this series is way more complicated.

I mean you’ve got almost 11 or more parallel universes, as more than that are separate entries in the series just going by different canon, and F/GO is a fusion of ALL of them plus some of Nasu’s other works.

Also the series seems to have a bad habit of just assuming you’ve seen everything in it prior to any entry, so you’d need to start at the VERY beginning I bet in order to start understanding shit.

But I am bringing this up for a specific reason. The reason I can not, or rather will not be trying to add this into my BBTAG ideas is not just that the Fate series is too much, it is too GOOD.

Good, as in it’s writing is MUCH better than the other four main Fates in BBTAG. I mean given Blazblue is in there that is kind of a low bar I mean. But by good storytelling I mean a bunch of deep and dynamic characters and specifically world-building that expands so much.

Like at the very least the four initial BBTAG worlds are REALLY bad at showing how their powers work, because either they are too vague or the writers are just lazy.

Blazblue has Ars Magus which is a fusion of magic and science, whatever the fuck that means, since you’d need to specify the difference between the two, (imagine the Magus Association in Fates losing their shit over this). The Power of Order (sort of the Blazblue Universe’s version of the Counter Force it seems) is vague as fuck and really doesn’t seem to be all it’s cracked up to be.

Personas seem to rarely be talked about since outside of gameplay they aren’t really talked about. Like in P3 I’m sure many people wondered why anyone with healing spells couldn’t have healed Shinji when he got shot. Also, no one brings up how the personas take the names of famous mythical and historical figures. Like with some minor rewrites, specifically for P4 Arena, you could literally take the power of Persona out of the story completely, or completely change it into something else because of how much the actual workings of Persona are NEVER brought up in-universe. Even the Shadow Operatives, who use Personas professionally and have the Kirijo Group’s research, don’ do anything we haven;t seen almost ANY other Persona do, this is where Arc Sys could’ve flexed their usual BS and I would’ve been fine. I mean you COULD say a reason that they haven;t gone more into the Power of Personas in0universe is that Mitsuru doesn’t want to go down the same path her grandfather did which resulted in the Dark Hour and The Fall.

EXS is Under Night also is rarely explained. Look at the wiki it seems VERY simplistic and doesn’t always match up to what we see when we look at the story modes, which also has a shit load of vague terminology that makes Blazblue look cohesive. I mostly blame the fact that Under Night hasn;t actually moved it’s story foreward for this though.

Lastly: Aura, Semblances, Dust, and Magic in RWBY. From vague terminology, to outright retcons. Semblances and Aura are literally just Rule of Cool. Semblances and Magic are VERY vague in their differences sometimes. Even in-universe they keep saying how much of a mystery aura and even the Grimm are (in the World of Remnants videos) which just seems to be a lazy way of wanting to keep things way too vague so they can have it do whatever the fuck they want.

But looking at Fate: magic circuits, Prana, Counter Force, the Magus Association and how nasty they can be, the Holy Grail War, etc. They SHOW and TELL. Is it complicated? Yes, but you just can’t drop into all of it right in the middle. The level of detail that Nasu gives it’s characters and world is LEAGUES above the other series in BBTAG who rely on vague terminology, reducing a lot of it to background information, never explaining anything (and when they do it is very bad explaining), or a bunch of other issues.

Like, you can talk all about the Fate series’ individual aspects and bring up multiple examples of every little detail. Can you do that with any other the other four series?

Like, I’m sure a competent crossover fanfiction author COULD fill in the blanks and give any of these four worlds the depth needed to stand equal to the Fate universe, but really it just seems like everything is incompetent compared to the Fate universe. I’m sure not every aspect of the Fate series hits bullseye every time, but it is still much better imo, just from sticking my toe into the series a bit, than these other four series.